Watneys Pubs in the 50s, 60s and 70s
Watneys, like any commercial organisation, both reacted to and attempted to lead the market. In building new public houses and refitting old ones, Watneys were very much in tune with the times. Sometimes they were innovative, with developments such as the Bird's Nest music bars and at other times plumbed the depths of bad taste with some ghastly themed pubs.
New towns, new pubs
Many new pubs were built in the 50s and increasingly in the 60s. As late as 1954 it was still difficult to get permission to build new public houses, but as restrictions were lifted and austerity gave way to "Never had it so good" new pubs began to appear. The planners of the new towns were thoughtful enough to allow the building of pubs and other recreation facilities and new housing estates often were provided with a modern pub.
At Stevenage, Watneys opened the Long Ship which occupied the ground floor of the town's tallest office block. A Viking theme was chosen and a mural outside depicted Vikings returning to their homeland after a raid. Inside a Danish theme was chosen; the Danish Lounge and Grill Room seemed tastefully furnished in fashionable Danish furniture. However, Viking motifs decorated the walls of the Danish Lounge and the inevitable Viking Bar.
Watneys opened the Woodcutter at the innovative Scottish New Town, Cumbernauld in 1970. Externally the pub blended in with its modern surroundings. Inside pine seemed to be the order of the day.
The style of the majority of public houses in the 50s and 60s followed prevailing architectural taste. Often the pub on an estate could display a considerable amount of style. Although, rarely the finest pieces of architecture, modern pubs often can typify the look of the 50s or 60s. Generally, they are not appreciated today and often subject to all kinds of unsympathetic alteration and more often demolition to make way for flats. This is a great shame since the sixties pub, represents the taste and style of that era, as well as the Victorian pub which is now revered.
Pubs in the 50s and 60s reflected the social structure of the day. They were rarely built without a public bar and a "posher" lounge or saloon bar, in which the beer was slightly more expensive. Watneys new public houses in the early to mid sixties usually had an off-licence attached. The Gauntlet in Kenilworth, my home town, was no exception. It was built to serve a new housing estate in the 60s. I have memories of cans of Party Seven being on prominent display in the off licence window. I had my first pint at the Gauntlet - lager, I'm afraid to say!
The concept of themed pubs actually goes back many years. As early as 1948, Whitbread considered themed pubs and actually converted the Nags Head, Drury Lane to a theatre themed pub in 1950. In those days though, a theme simply meant a collection of memorabilia. On these terms you could even claim that the historic Bear, arguably Oxfords oldest pub, with its famous tie collection, was a themed pub.
However, by the end of the sixties, themed pub became a complete fantasy world. Rather than a collection of objects that the customers could choose to ignore, the theme became a large part of the drinking experience. Customers of the Ushers (part of the Watney Mann empire) Half Moon at Tiverton, could pretend they had chosen to spend their holiday, or evening out, in Hawaii, rather than rural Devon!
The customers entered via a fake rock cavern. Special effects such as rocks, waterfalls and palm trees greeted them. The interior was furnished with bamboo furniture, with rattan covered walls and a split ceiling covered with bamboo that gave customers glimpses of a Polynesian sky! This kind of fantasy seems odd in Tiverton, but it was not an uncommon theme in the 60s. Some Butlins Camps had Hawaiian Bars.
Another common fantasy was the age of chivalry. Modern lighting concealed in fake medieval armour was common, as were displays of armour and dining rooms designed to resemble medieval banqueting halls. Esso even kitted out a service station in this dcor. Watneys often used the antiquity of an old house as an excuse to do the same. They also built brand new pubs and gave them a nautical, Viking or Wild West theme. Often some spurious reason for the choice of a particular period was given. It was rarely appropriate to the pub or location.
In Coventry, a new house, "The Jolly Frenchman", had a Parisian restaurant decorated with French posters and Martini advertisements, but the crowning glory was a fake Arc de Triomphe. In Londons theatre land, the interior of an old Victorian pub, the Carnbourn, was ripped out without a thought to its history. The pub was renamed the Frigate and was turned into a three level mock up of an old time dockyard. There you could sit back and enjoy your drink whilst watching sailors kit bags being hoisted up and down to the sounds of squeaking pulleys!
[Perhaps today's breweries should consider this example before destroying pubs from the 50s, 60s and 70s!]
In 1970, in Tottenham, Watneys built a new pub called the Flower Pot on the site of an old pub of the same name. Here the name of the pub was so in tune with the spirit of the age, that a psychedelic theme was unavoidable. Perhaps the ultimate sixties trip into fantasy land, the Flower Pot, looked from the outside, like a bizarre, cartoon-style building, a pub on LSD! The customer entered via an elevated ramp and there were huge green vines snaking across the ceiling. Inside there were several bars on different levels. The decoration was, of course, flowers - giant coloured ones!. No need to take a trip - just go to the Flower Pot and have a pint of Red Barrel!
[Sadly the Flower Pot is no longer there. Such a period design would have stood little chance of surviving the many changes of fashion. It was demolished to make way for a supermarket.]
On 20 February 1968, Watneys Director Mr R H Combe and DJ Simon Dee opened a new pub in Twickenham, The Birds Nest. It was much more than a new pub. The Birds Nest represented a new concept in entertainment. Watneys combined a pub with a discotheque and an innovative system of telephone tables where customers could dial for food and drink. Inside a gay fairground type dcor was combined with an ultra modern stainless steel dance floor.
This Birds Nest was the first of several. The second was opened in the heart of swinging London as part of the Six Bells on the Kings Road in Chelsea. Two hundred and fifty people packed the launch party, which was attended by Simon Dee again, along with Cleo Laine and Johnny Dankworth. Here the theme was Bavarian. Watneys engaged German architect, Thomas Gehrig, who had designed the interiors of bars and clubs in Germany, Italy and the USA. The aim was to appeal to an international clientele.
Watneys continued to open more Birds Nest pubs. At the Green Man in Muswell Hill, a billiard room was converted by giving it a plush, nightclub style interior. Yet another one was opened in Waterloo, with Simon Dee becoming a regular at the launches.
With the Birds Nests pubs, Watneys had created a new style of venue that appealed to a new generation.
Top of the Watneys pub chain were the Schooner Inns. These were a new concept in drinking places that aimed to have a wider appeal beyond the traditional pub drinker. They usually had restaurants and the standard was consistent. You could drive anywhere in the country and know what to expect from a Schooner.
The first Schooner was the Crooked Billet in Staines, opened in November 1965. Schooners quickly became a national brand.
The Schooners were examples of sixties and seventies themed pubs at their best, or worst, depending on your point of view. Some of the conversions were understated others, such as the dreadful Frigate already mentioned, plumbed the depths of bad taste. The Boat and Bottle at Thorpe St Andrew, just outside Norwich, opened on 25 April 1969, was more restrained, although it is hard to believe that this is nearly forty years ago. The original house, the Thorpe Gardens Hotel famous for its tea garden in Victorian times, was extensively modernised and given a boating theme, with bars named "The Dropped Anchor" and "The Even Keel" and restaurants - "The Moorings" and "The Waterman". The décor apparently retained much of its historical character with oak beams, white walls and colourful curtain fabrics. The newly built parts of the building were pretty much late sixties in style, at least from the outside.
Schooners, together with Bernis, Trophy Taverns (Whitbread) and Toby Grills (Bass Charrington) became part of the family eating and drinking experience of the seventies. This style of pub/restaurant is still popular today, although all of these names have disappeared sometime in the eighties. Whitbreads Beefeater restaurants are the closest you get to it today.
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razorart" razorart 13/04/2012
in 1970's where Santander Bank stands now on the
corner of Water Lane/King Street." Steve Slade 13/03/2013
Dave Charge many more whose names I don't remember, former dj's Colin Willis,Barry, Mitch, Pete Pudding (me), Simon, Dave Brooks,Andy Stinton, (scottish) Jimmy and a guest appearance sometimes by Rockin' Ravin' Tony, I did friday nights, saturday and sunday lunchtimes with go go dancers bordering on strippers, good memories. Will try and upload some early posters at a later date." Pete Wieland 28/07/2014
Kind regards. Lee 23/11/2015" Lee Dawson 23/11/2015
My favourite at the time was Roast Duckling with orange sauce.
This would have been early 1970s." Bob Astill 07/01/2016
I am white English but loved it here dancing with Greeks Turks and West Indians we had real integration here so my memories are of a fondness of the place. Met many girls here too. Wish I had a time machine." Dave 05/02/2017
The second Schooner to open was the Leather Bottle in Edgware. Other Schooners included:
The Mitre, Reading;
The Robin Hood, Kingston;
The Swan, Bursledon;
The Spotted Dog, Forest Gate.
There was one in Brighton: the Abingdon?
There was also the Coach & Horses, Chiswick, which Roy Wilson Smith redesigned with an artificial stream flowing through, recycling the water. One night someone threw a large quantity of detergent into the water, which resulted in a tidal wave of foam flowing everywhere. Good old Roy.
Wish I could remember more." Bill 01/03/2017
Yes I remember' Charlie Browns Disco at the Robert E Lee' in Tottenham
back in the early 70's and perhaps a little too much 'Old Crow, American Burbon' while trying to stay "On Trend" back in those days?" Rick 19/06/2017
I collect matchboxes as a hobby and append a list of the Schooner Inns that I know about which had their own matchboxes. Hope this helps those who remember this chain. If anyone knows of anymore I would be grateful to know so that we can extend the list: ALPERTON Not known
THE BASSETT SOUTHAMPTON
THE BAMFORD ARMS Not known
CORN EXCHANGE LEICESTER
THE CROWN NORTHOLT
COACH AND HORSES CHISWICK
THE COMEDY LONDON
CAMERON Not known
THE CHERRY TREE NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME
THE CROWN SWINDON
THE CHANDOS LONDON
THE CROOKED BILLET STAINES
THE DERBY BLACKPOOL
THE DISBURY MANCHESTER
THE DORSET ARMS EAST GRINSTEAD
THE ELDON NEWCASTLE
FLYING HORSE BANBURY
THE FORGE GLENFIELD
THE FRIGATE LONDON
THE FLYING HORSE NOTTINGHAM
GEORGE AND DRAGON BALDOCK
THE GREEN MAN CHINGFORD
THE GATTIS SOUTHAMPTON
THE GEORGE READING
THE GEORGE HAYES
THE GRAPES HIGH WYOMBE
THE GEORGE WANSTEAD
THE GOLDEN CROSS OXFORD
GEORGE IN THE TREE BERKSWELL
THE GARDEN HOUSE BIRMINGHAM
THE JOHN WALKER STOCKTON
THE JOLLY FARMER PRESTON
LEATHER BOTTLE EDGEWARE
MOAT HOUSE TAMWORTH
THE NEW INN EASTBOURNE
THE NEW FAIRLOP OAK BARKINGSIDE
THE OLD RECTIFYING HOUSE WORCESTER
OLD HALL COVENTRY
THE OLDFIELD TAVERN GREENFORD
THE OLIVER WATFORD
OLD MILL BEXLEY
THE OLD SUGAR LOAF DUNSTABLE
OLD COACH HOUSE Not known
THE PLOUGH ROMFORD
THE PORTMAN ARMS LONDON
PUNCH BOWL EDGBASTON
THE PRINCE OF WALES CHATHAM
PIG AND WHISTLE LONDON SW1
PIED PIPER RINGWOOD
THE PLOUGH RUISLIP
THE QUEEN ANNE BRIGHTON
THE ROYAL EXETER BOURNEMOUTH
THE ROYAL ANCHOR LIPHOOK
THE ROKER HOTAL SUNDERLAND
ROBIB HOOD KINGSTON
THE RED HOUSE NEWCASTLE
THE ROYAL FOREST CHINGFORD
THE SCHOONER INN CHESTER
THE SCHOONER INN HOUNSLOW
SCHOONER INN LIVERPOOL
SCHOONER INN ROCHDALE
THE SHIP AND ROYAL LYTHAM
THE SHIP AND CASTLE RYDE IOW
THE SWISS COTTAGE LONDON
SNOWS PICCADILLY LONDON
THE SHIP AND ROYAL SOUTH SHIELDS
SAYWARS ARMS Not known
THE SWAN BURSLEDON
SUSSEX POTTER NOTH LANCING
THE SWAN BURSLEDON
THE TAVERN IN THE TOWN CROYDON
THE TALLY HO FINCHLEY
THE WHISTLE STOP Not known
THE WIG AND CROWN MAIDSTONE
THE WIG AND GOWN MAIDSTONE
THE WHITE LYON HARTLEY WINTNEY
WILBERFORCE Not known
THE WAGGON AND HORSES SOUTHGATE
THE WOODLANDS GRAVESEND
THE WHITE HART EPSOM
THE WHITE HART EPSOM
WHITE HART CHRISTCHURCH
THE WINDMILL BLACKBURN
YE HART AND GARTER WINDSOR" Dave Drew 09/08/2017
Old Sugar Loaf , Dunstable
George Hotel, Redding
The Swan, Stafford
Gates and Garter, Windsor" Sue Line 28/04/2018
During the work, Bill Power (comment above) kindly shared with us his memories of working for Schooners and we'd love to also speak to Gavin Wilson too. If you see this comment Gavin and would like to discuss the Historic England project and Schooner Inns, i'd be very pleased to speak with you." Matt Bristow 19/06/2018
I used to got the muswe ll hill Birds nest, usually Fri or Sunday, sometimes both.was a very good venue where most people knew each other .I remember Sonny ,a nice guy . And of course the shorter and heavier Pancho .
Shame there isn't any photos," Patrick 01/07/2018
Or am I mistaken and it wasn’t a schooner ?" Andrew Rixon 16/11/2018
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